NBA Playoffs...

[Biggin]

did you watch last night?
obviously not if you think SAS got all this huge help from the officials. The first half, SAS shot more free throws, well that happens when one team shot jump shots while the other took it to the basket, its basketball, yall know that.

i hate that, and its BS. its taking away from how great the Spurs looked. I guess holding Dallas to 8 first quarter points, 34 at the half (Mavs playoff low), and 87 the whole game was a product of the officials. Dallas averaged over 100 PPG in the regular season.

its not fair to George Hill, who had 21 points on 12 shots, its not fair to Tim Duncan, with 17 points 10 board and 5 dimes, its not fair to Tony Parker, with 10 points, 8 rebounds and 9 dimes, Ginobli with 26, etc...

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SAS shot 9 more FT's than Dallas the whole series, where is this myth that SAS was getting all these calls coming from?

I know why R13 is worried, hell id be worried too. SA has nothing to lose now, and they've found their defense again, bad news for PHX. If SA can slow the tempo down, PHX is in major trouble.

[Unchained]

did you watch last night?
obviously not if you think SAS got all this huge help from the officials. The first half, SAS shot more free throws, well that happens when one team shot jump shots while the other took it to the basket, its basketball, yall know that.

i hate that, and its BS. its taking away from how great the Spurs looked. I guess holding Dallas to 8 first quarter points, 34 at the half (Mavs playoff low), and 87 the whole game was a product of the officials. Dallas averaged over 100 PPG in the regular season.

its not fair to George Hill, who had 21 points on 12 shots, its not fair to Tim Duncan, with 17 points 10 board and 5 dimes, its not fair to Tony Parker, with 10 points, 8 rebounds and 9 dimes, Ginobli with 26, etc...

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SAS shot 9 more FT's than Dallas the whole series, where is this myth that SAS was getting all these calls coming from?

I know why R13 is worried, hell id be worried too. SA has nothing to lose now, and they've found their defense again, bad news for PHX. If SA can slow the tempo down, PHX is in major trouble.

Chillax man-just ribbin' you and 13. The refs let them play. I just know who 13 is when it comes to ref-bashing lol.

[Biggin]

yeah that wasn't directed at you haha, i know what R13 wanted to say as well, even though its totally false in regards to last night.

SA had the toughest test in the first round, so they are more battle-tested than PHX or LAL/OKC (most likely LAL). Beating Dallas @Dallas one game and then shutting them down in SA is huge. The defense is back. George Hill is gonna be a star very very soon. He plays excellent defense, top notch.

PHX is tough, because they can run and running can kill SA. If SA can slow the game down and play in the half court, SA will win. If PHX gets transition buckets and tons of fast break opportunities, they will win.

If the Spurs shoot over 40% and get offensive rebounds, they can slow the game down. If they miss tons of shots and allow PHX to get rebounds, itll be a long series.

[R13]

15 FT's to 31 FT's last night, I think Dal shot 2 altogether in the first half. Dirk basically didn't play the whole 2nd with 4 fouls(though he made two dumbass ones to get them)...along with 28% from the field, with SA 53%, that's the main reason why the 1st half was so lopsided...but I know Biggin isn't happy about blowing that 22 point lead. With that said, Dallas shouldn't have been down in this series...Kidd was a no show, Marion not consistent, this wasn't the same Dallas team from the regular season and that's undeniable.


I was hoping SA would win this series, was expecting Dallas to win but hoping for the opposite. PHX has homecourt with this series now, they've took care of SA 2/3 times this year...they're the better team, esp. with Barbosa now back and Lopez probably will be back for this series. With that said, SA has knocked out PHX everytime and I've been confident those times too and it was basically like this last time they played(PHX took SA 3/4 times and had home court). It's time to put up or shut up, they can beat SA without a doubt if they play like they have been all year, no reason to be afraid of them...so let them go out there and win or **** it away and go home where they would deserve to be.

[Biggin]

If you watched the game, then you know why Dallas didnt shoot but 2 FT's in the first half. How many times did Dallas get into the paint and create fouls? None, while the Spurs lived in the paint and got tons of fouls. Thats not bad officiating, that's a good gameplan. Dallas got it to within 13 at halftime, they had a huge run that started in the 2nd and lasted til midway thru the third when DAL took a 1 point lead. It only lasted like 27 seconds, but they had a lead. It scared me to death, because its exactly how the Spurs won Game 3. They were down big, got it to 11 at the half, then started the 3rd on a huge run.

Now Phoenix. Sure PHX beat SAS 2 outta 3 times this year, but that isn't the playoffs. Dallas had beat the Spurs 7 outta the last 9 times, but the Spurs are a different team after April.
And PHX is the better team? I realize you are a PHX fan, but Tim Duncan will go down in history as the best PF and Top 10 to ever play, Manu is an All-Star, Parker is an All-Star who is hitting his groove and playing excellent, Richard Jefferson is an All-Star, and George Hill has turned into a great PG capable of defending anyone.
I won't say SA is better, PHX was 3rd in the West, but I would not bet against San Antonio.

More experienced, playoff proven, and arguably the best coach in the NBA (Pop may not be the best, but he is a better coach than Alvin Gentry, it isnt debatable)
Timmy D and the boys have one more good run in them, hopefully its this year.

Nah, I wouldnt be worried about a team that has consistently put you out of the playoffs and has 4 titles in 10 years, nah no biggie.
I'm not naive, im worried about PHX. They can push the tempo and run, and that would kill SA.
and it seems like you are already preparing the excuses, are you suggesting that if SA was somehow able to win, that it would be because PHX let them? thats silly, and very homerish

[R13]

Just like the regular season isn't the playoffs this year, years past playoffs isn't this years playoffs, the history is just that...history. They get caught up thinking about that, they'll choke, a new year with a new team...past years don't mean anything, you know that and you know the Spurs shouldn't be going into this series thinking that.


It's not like I'm saying they're scrubs or anything, neither is PHX, with Nash, Richardson, Amare...then the bench that doesn't need to be underestimated. The team isn't focused around timmy anymore, it's around Manu, Duncan isn't nearly as big as a factor as years past.

Where did I say I wasn't worried? I was worried about the 2nd round without a doubt, just not worried because of years past, it's the past...I hope the Suns have that same mentality too. And no excuses, big factors like 3 point shooting will determine this series, which has to with PHX ****ing it up more than what SA does. A **** poor shooting performance would be PHX's fault and SA D against that is what everyone elses in the league is, nothing special, close out and get a hand in their face. This series is PHX's to lose, most things are in their favor, that's not being a homer...that's a fact.

[Biggin]

You don't think confidence is important? You don't think the Spurs know that they can beat PHX, making them play better? Yeah its not the same team, but that confidence will be there.

If you dont think the Spurs are still Timmy's team, you didnt watch the 4th quarter last night. Almost every possession went thru TD. He did not score all the time, but made two or three great passes that set up buckets. The Spurs still run thru TD.

And the last part is the most absurd thing I've ever heard, you are already making excuses for PHX when the series has not even started. So teh Spurs defense will have nothing to do with PHX's shooting? Thats ridiculous, and wrong. You usually aren't this off base and wrong about NBA basketball, maybe its the Suns/Spurs that has gotten you all mixed up. If you can't see that the Spurs defense right now is excellent, top level defense, you are not watching. Dallas is just as an explosive offensive team as PHX, maybe even more, and San Antonio held them below 100 poitns in 4 out of 6 games.

If you think that the Spurs defense will have no effect on PHX's shooting, keep thinking that. Hopefully PHX is thinking the same thing. Thats silly, to say that a team's defense has nothing to do with the other team's offense.

Here are some facts. Facts are things like 4 NBA Championships, and never beating a team in a playoff series.

No doubt PHX will be the favorite, they are the higher seed with more wins.
But there is a HUGE difference between being a favorite and and it being the Suns series to lose.

[R13]

Of course it is, but it's not like the Suns don't know they can beat SA too, but everything else...esp. series from years ago should be the last thing they're think about.

They're not, of course they're going to work the ball through their big man, that's what every team does..but this Manu's team now, he's the star and their best player - this year, not talking about career wise.

How is that making excuses? They are a 3 point shooting team, the shots either go in or they don't, the only thing the other team can do is close out and try to contest...that's what every team does, that's the basics, the Spurs game plan isn't going to be any different. So it's not a matter of if they're a great defense or not, not when it comes to behind the arc, stopping Amare and transition D will be a factor - not 3 point shooting, if the Suns are making them(which they have many players who can), it'll be bad news for the Spurs. Nash, Richardson, Dudley, Frye, Dragic and Barbosa can all make it rain - even Hill from the corner. Dallas is a good offensive team, but the Suns are the best offensive team in league..even in that W the Spurs had this year, the Suns still put up 104 on them I believe.


No, that's not what I said at all, I said 3 POINT SHOOTING and that's one facet of a teams offense...so when you put it like I'm saying a teams D doesn't have to do with a teams offense does sound stupid of course, but that's not what I'm saying.

[1inStripes]

BIG stickback by Gasol.

[Biggin]

Well I get worked up easy, thats known haha

It sounded like you were saying that PHX is a heavy favorite and the only way San Antonio can win is for PHX to let them. That SA will have nothing to do with the outcome of the series, only PHX missing or maknig shots will determine the series with no respect to the Spurs defense, which is an insult to San Antonio and Spurs fans.


But its still arrogant to assume taht the Spurs can do nothing to stop PHX's 3 point offense. Its simply not true. There are many things the Spurs will do, they will switch on every screen, they will overplay the line on the better shooters, Nash, Frye, and Richardson (at times). And denying Nash and em the open 3 in transition will be the biggest challenge.

Like I said, tempo decides the series, not PHX's 3 point shooting or SA's points in the paint. Tempo.